I'm looking at making my first power hammer purchase, was hoping some of you with experience would chime in on the pro's and cons of a 25lb. vs. 50lb. little giant. I've never used one before, but like most things I buy I'd rather spend a bit more now to get something I won't outgrow, then to try to make the situation right down the road. I do mostly ornamental iron work, nothing out of the ordinary or heavy which makes me think that a 25 would be fine, but who knows what could come down the road. Is there that much difference between the two? I also assume that with a 50lb. I would need to beef up my shop floor to handle the vibrations made, wondering what you all recommend for that. Thanks in advance for your help!!
-chris
25lb. vs. 50lb. little giant
Started by Christopher Rice, Jun 25 2012 10:30 AM
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#1
Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:30 AM
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#2
Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:50 PM
This is purely my opinion only. I built my own mechanical power hammer. It's a 55 lb. hammer. I've never used a Little Giant. I have used a "real" self contained power hammer. I'm told that the mechanical I built has similar performance to an LG because both are mechanical. From the prices I've seen for good used Little Giants I would save some more money (not much more in some cases) and get a self contained hammer. Much better control and no adjusting for various thickness of materials. Again - just my thoughts as I've never used an LG.
Tony
#3
Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:22 AM
Chris, If you are set on a mechanical hammer I'd go with the 50 pound. I had a 25 pound Champion and once you'r over 3/4" or so stock it has to run faster to push the metal. The faster it runs the less control you have. It becomes a slapper instead of a hammer. With a 50 you don't have that problem. Check out the brakes that some are using on their mechanical hammers. It gives you a lot more control and that's what it is all about. Ideally an air hammer will give you the most control, but the mechanical with a brake is the next best thing.
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#4
Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:27 AM
I agree that 25 pound hammer is a likely to limit you in what you might do. I purchased a 25 pound Moluch 30 years ago used it for about 10 years after a major rebuild. It sure was a big plus supplementing the hammer and anvil. However as soon as I could I purchased a self contained air hammer. Mine is a smaller unit with a 55 pound tup. I have never been sorry that I made that change. The significant difference between the mechanical hammers and self contained air hammers is that there is no slop in the tup which means that the dies hit/contact in exactly the same location on every stroke. This offers a big advantage and opportunity to use special tooling/dies and make these hammers more flexible than mechanical hammers which run in less precise dovetail ways.
In any event the 50 pounder is a better choice because it provides you with a wider range of capabilities. Good luck and happy forging.
Oh - And if you get a hammer that has the anvil block cast integrally with the hammer frame The floor should be ok if you place the hammer on a piece of steel plate, multiple layers of plywood laminated together, or a light timber matt.
In any event the 50 pounder is a better choice because it provides you with a wider range of capabilities. Good luck and happy forging.
Oh - And if you get a hammer that has the anvil block cast integrally with the hammer frame The floor should be ok if you place the hammer on a piece of steel plate, multiple layers of plywood laminated together, or a light timber matt.
Edited by knots43, 26 June 2012 - 10:45 AM.
#5
Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:17 AM
Thanks for your input guys, I've decided to go with the Anyang 33 in place of the 50lb. LG. Can't wait for it to get here now!
-chris
-chris
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#6
Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:48 AM
Good decision . After having seen your work my, guess is that you will never regret that choice.
#7
Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:42 AM
Thanks, I can't wait!!
-chris
-chris
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