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#1 kellystick

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:31 PM

Just now getting into forging. Haven't sone much but work on building the forge and some minor forgings as experiments. I built one burner from Ron Reils page. Heat was good. Got my second burner now tuned.

My burner is currently mounted straight down from the top. Most burners I see are at an angle. Been reading lots of stuff but, their being "lots of stuff to read" it looks as though entering from the side is either for adding some swirl and/or getting the external hoses or tubes more out of the way of heat. I am trying to finish my forge this weekend.

My questions:

Do I need to move my current burner to the side and ADD the second burner off to the side in line with it? IF so why? If Swirl is the answer then good enough. What angle is best or what is the effective range of angles?

My forge is 14" D by 24" long. What spacing between the two burners is reccomended AND how for from the open end? I have enough Kaowool to fill it plum full but had planned to fill in the back. Though for venting I may have to change that. Suggestions???

I have no specific plans at this time to specialize in anything. In other words I am not planning to just make knifes for example. Just need a hot forge that can do most anything in a general sense. I want it to be able to achieve weld heat.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:49 PM

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Here is just about the same question and one answer

I suggest that you go through the forge forum and see what other questions perk your interest. The members tend not to re answer the same questions over and over again.

We do have a very good search function on this forum site and most every thread is on google, Bing, ask and most any other search engine.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:56 PM

I've seen them mounted all sorts of ways, square, at an angle, even some newer designs that blow up from the bottom on one side of the forge floor. Blown burners tend to be introduced at a tangent, almost all of the commercially produced venturi type burners I've seen are square to the forge (at least the business end).

If you've already mounted one square I'd stay with it and do both that way. If it's less than ideal then rebuild or start designing your next forge.

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#4 kellystick

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 07:27 PM

ok, I saw on one of the links to mount them 10-15 degrees off TDC. I moved my forge legs to meet this. Cut, rewelded etc....

Moving on.

Got 2 homemade burners installed. Just need that "ONE MORE BRASS FITTING"!!!! to complete fuel supply to both burners.

Plus waiting on delivery of the ITC100. No one around here has even heard of it.

Building your own forge can be a lot of work. BUT I expect it to be worth it! It's been almost an addiction lately. Can't wait to get it all set up. The Smithy that is... Still gotta put together a good anvil stand, make some good tongs or modify others etc... You get to a point where you need the forge to help build the forge/smithy but you are not done with the forge so you improvise and keep moving. Sounds like life.

Later

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 04:52 AM

also the btu for cubic area on rons page should tell you how many burners you need?




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